Everyone is familiar with PETA. If you’re one the “nut and berry” types or a full fledged carnivore like myself the organization and it’s methods makes it hard not to notice.
Those of you that have stumbled through “The Cavity” (or here at Kathy’s place) for any length of time realize I could easily live without PETA. In fact I have been an advocate of the IRS administering lethal injections to it’s tax exempt status. But little did I know just how duplicitous PETA and it’s cult like followers are.
I know now, and so do you: PETA Kills Animals
Hypocrisy is the mother of all credibility problems, and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has it in spades. While loudly complaining about the “unethical” treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, the group has its own dirty little secret.
PETA kills animals. By the thousands.
From July 1998 through the end of 2003, PETA killed over 10,000 dogs, cats, and other “companion animals” – at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. That’s more than five defenseless animals every day. Not counting the dogs and cats PETA spayed and neutered, the group put to death over 85 percent of the animals it took in during 2003 alone. And its angel-of-death pattern shows no sign of changing.
For those that are skepticle by nature, here’s the proof, in pdf format. PETA claims it engages in outrageous media-seeking stunts “for the animals.” But which animals? Carping about the value of future two-piece dinners while administering lethal injections to puppies and kittens isn’t ethical. It’s hypocritical – with a death toll that PETA would protest if it weren’t their own doing.
Cross posted within the Cranial Cavity
Oh.. but you know, they mean well… and that’s all that counts.
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Comment by Kathy K — 20 May, 2005 @ 21:17
At least killing puppies doesn’t destroy the environment.
You’re paving the rainforest to eat meat.
Comment by WC Varones — 21 May, 2005 @ 01:33
Surely, you’re joking.
A web site exclusively called http://www.petakillsanimals.com?
Operated by the Center for Consumer Freedom? Did you bother checking your sources?
Do you know who these people are? Do you know who Richard Berman is? Do you know who funds the Center for Consumer Freedom?
I’ll give you a hint. Follow the money:
They kill chickens, cows, and pigs by the billions. And after you eat, their cohorts will offer you a smoke and drink.
Give up? Let me help you.
The Center for Consumer Freedom is funded by the alcohol, tobacco, and meat Industries. You see, these industries are making billions of dollars but in the process, they’re ruining the health of people who over consume their products. And because they’re running scared because they know that PETA is educating people, they hire front groups with jingoistic sounding names to do their dirty work for them.
Comment by Roberto Allende — 21 May, 2005 @ 01:49
Penn and Teller, in one episode of their Showtime program Bullsh*t, covered this. They said just about the same thing. In all their other shows, I’ve never seen anything that seemed grossly untrue, but at least its another source.
Comment by buckethead — 21 May, 2005 @ 08:26
Roberto Allende I certainly did check my sources. What’s your point? Did you check the linked pdf file? Looks pretty plain to me PETA talks a good game them performs the same type of “mass puppy murder” that they accuse others of.
Besides I readily admitted being a carnivore in the post. Fact is after many trips to Korea and China/Hong Kong I have developed a taste for cats and dogs.
Say you don’t own a French Poodle do you? Just curious, they taste great hickory smoked! You should try it.
Comment by Marc — 21 May, 2005 @ 09:08
Hello:
Sorry, I donâ??t know Penn and Teller but I did briefly check their site:
http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do?topic=peta
I do not have the time to check all of the people on their guest list, but I checked a few:
Number one on their guest list:
Research Director, Center for Consumer Freedom:
This is the SAME group that I just mentioned that is funded by the alcohol, tobacco, and meat industries.
The National Animal Interest Alliance:
If you check into their site, they readily admit that itâ??s â??an association of business, agricultural, scientific, and recreational interests dedicated to promoting animal welfare, supporting responsible animal use and strengthening the bond between humans and animals.â??
Yes, they have an â??animal interest:â?? making billions of dollars by promoting meat and animal products. Again, this is another front group for the alcohol, tobacco, and meat industries. They most likely have a few â??scientificâ?? people on their roster so that they can use the word â??scientificâ?? to create an illusion of intellectualism.
Americans for the Advancement of Modern Medicine:
This is a group worried about losing millions of dollars in grants and federal funding.
Ted Nugent:
Well, he likes to kill animals with bow and arrows so he has an interest in promoting hunting.
I donâ??t have time this morning to check the others.
But thatâ??s the point.
These henchmen mislead us into thinking that there are other sources when in fact; theyâ??re managed by the same core group.
Comment by Roberto Allende — 21 May, 2005 @ 12:16
Marc:
Brilliant retort! You are too witty and elegant for me so I will resign on the subject of PETA.
So tell me, are you feeding your family and friends dogs and cats too?
If you are, please make sure you cook them well because if you do not kill all of the parasites, bacterial and germs, you may be feeding them stuff like campylobacteriosis, staphylococcus aureus, shigellosis, salmonellosis, listeria monocytogenes, escherichia coli, cyclospora cayetanenis, and campylobacter jejuni.
And before you cook, clean your animals well because I am not sure you want the people you supposedly care about to eat shit, urine, blood, or pus.
And if you can, try to pick out your own living dog or cat because you donâ??t want any vendor to feed you a diseased or down animal like the meat industry does in America.
Bon appétit.
Comment by Roberto Allende — 21 May, 2005 @ 13:02
I am not an expert but here is a better list of what you may be eating when you eat your dogs and cats. FYI.
anthrax
botulinum toxin bacteria
campylobacter jejuni bacteria
clostridium perfringens bacteria
cyclospora cayetanensis parasite
E.coli bacteria
giardia lamblia parasite
hepatitis A virus
listeria monocytogenes bacteria
salmonella bacteria
shigella bacteria
staphylococcus aureus bacteria
vibrio vulnificus bacteria
Comment by Roberto Allende — 21 May, 2005 @ 14:29
Why thanks Roberto for the complament, I thought my retort was rather witty also.
To answer your question, yes both daughters have been taught the pleasures of canine/feline cuisine. But they both prefer to dine on the many songbirds that infest my backyard. And the odd clubbed seal shipped to us from an uncle in Greeenland.
KIDS, no matter how much you teach them they tend to go their own way.
Question, if as you have so diligently pointed out we are all at risk of such a long an threatening list of parasitic maladies by eating meat how has the human race survived millions of years?
Shouldn’t we all be dead long ago?
Don’t answer that, just go away your not winning any converts here.
Comment by Marc — 21 May, 2005 @ 17:58
Go away? Isn’t that censorship?
Well okay. I will go.
And I won’t even answer your question but I’ll give you a hint as to my answer.
What was the average life expectancy of human beings during the period you specify?
What was the death rate for human beings, particularly for children?
Do you think that people ate meat everyday in the good old days?
If you give up, ask James about it.
Although he is laughably mistaken about Annie Oakley and Thomas Jefferson (I too, study history), maybe he will have better luck telling you that people got sick and died like fruit flies 200 to 2000 years ago.
Please make sure you tell James that you are censoring opinions on your web site so I will not have the opportunity to answer him. Thanks.
Comment by Roberto Allende — 22 May, 2005 @ 00:09
No that’s not censorship, it’s a request. The general definition of the word is, The practice of suppressing a text or part of a text that is considered objectionable according to certain standards.” You haven’t seen anything of the like here, and won’t.
And BTW you have completly discounted (on purpose or ignorance?) centuries of medical advancements that have contributed to a longer life span that you see today.
Do I think men of the Paleolithic Era were solely meat eaters? Certainly not, they were known as hunters/gatherers weren’t they?
I find it rather odd after reading your rants against eating meat and forming the logical assumption you would prefer man eat predominately veggies I find this as the first post on your blog:
“Botulinum toxin Prevalent in soil and marine sediments worldwide, their spores are often found on the surfaces of fruits and vegetables, and in seafood.”
Well, damm veggies aren’t safe either. Guess I stick to chickens, cows, goats and the odd dog and cat. Plus the occasional Bald Eagle or two.
And please, what the hell “James” are you refering to? Not that it matters.
Comment by Marc — 22 May, 2005 @ 02:04
Well, do you want my comments or not? Telling me to go away is a form of editing my observations so I consider it a form of censorship.
In any event, you implied that the human race was eating meat with impunity. No, people rarely ate meat in those days. And if they ate meat, they certainly didn’t eat meat as frequently as we do today. And if they were lucky enough to get meat, people got sick and/or died like crazy, frequently because what they ate was contaminated.
Well, if you were on my site, you know that I was collecting data and checking my facts. Hmmm. Is that a flaw?
As far as botulism toxin, if you’re a hunter or fisherman, or getting your clubbed seals from Greenland, you should know about botulism toxin since many hunters and fishermen preserve their foods.
Furthermore, since you suggested that dogs and an occasional bald eagle are on the table, here is the part you missed about botulism toxin:
Scientists have discovered that clostridia can produce at least seven types of botulism toxin, identified as A, B, C, D, E, F, and G. Humans are usually affected by A, B, E, and very rarely F. Domesticated animals such as dogs, cattle, and mink are affected by botulism C toxin, which also affects birds and has caused massive die-offs in domestic bird flocks and wild waterfowl. Botulism D toxin can cause illness in cattle, and horses succumb to botulism A, B, and C toxin. There have been no confirmed human or animal botulism cases linked to the G toxin.
http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/ency/botulism.jsp
The botulinal toxin has been found in a variety of foods, including low-acid preserved vegetables, such as green beans, spinach, mushrooms, and beets; fish, including canned tuna, fermented, smoked and salted fish; and meat products, such as ham, chicken and sausage. The toxin is destroyed by normal cooking processes (heating at >C for five minutes or boiling for a few minutes).
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/who270/en/
The key words are contamination and risk management. Millions of cattle, chickens, and pigs pissing and defecating upstream or on the ground may certainly contaminate the soil, vegetables, and fruit.
I was referring to James R. Rummel who ludicrously suggested that Annie Oakley or Thomas Jefferson would approve of humiliating prisoners in American prisons.
Comment by Roberto Allende — 22 May, 2005 @ 14:31
OK have it your way, comment all you want, I’ll just choose to ignore the troll who spends more energy off topic than on.
Unless of course you care to comment on the intent of the post, which was the duplicity of PETA. Not unrelated garbage you keep throwing in here.
See ya nice knowing ya
Goodby
Gut vorbei
Buon vicino
Bueno cerca
Bon près
One of those salutations you should understand, maybe.
If not try this one, it is more to the point:
word verloren u onwetend kruipen
Comment by Marc — 22 May, 2005 @ 19:18
Hmmm. You seem to want to take the cowardly way out. Alright, since you want to pretend that you’re some kind of intellectual, let’s talk about PETA.
I already told you that The Center for Consumer Freedom is funded by the alcohol, tobacco, and meat industries. Because those industries are running scared, they are using front groups like The Center for Consumer Freedom to discredit PETA.
According to your own corrupt source for information, PETA’s adoption rate is 19.5%.
That’s 1 in 5 animals that are given homes and are saved by PETA.
Since puppies and kittens are born every day, common sense should tell you that no organization can possibly handle a large influx of animals for an indefinite period.
So, when PETA representatives are unable to find homes for these animals, rather than let them roam in the street, they have little option but to transfer them to the local humane society.
Does PETA actually kill the animals as you claim or is it the local humane society? Be specific.
Like The Center for Consumer Freedom and their henchmen, you deviously misrepresent their points of views and then attack them for things that they never said.
For example, can you show me anything from PETA saying that they don’t take animals to the Humane Society?
Unlike the meat industries, PETA does not breed millions of animals. PETA does not feed these animals growth hormones and they do not put sick and dying animals up for adoption let alone feed them to people like the meat industries.
Furthermore, I did not see any evidence that 10,000 animals were killed. Your proof is a joke.
The rest of your remarks are silly.
Comment by Roberto Allende — 22 May, 2005 @ 23:54